chapitre 433
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chapitre 433
a je l'attends!!!
jpense kiji vas parler a robin et s'excuser xD
logiquement shanks et barbe blanche devrais se rencontrer
j'éspére que on verra les primes de l'équipage!!!!
jpense kiji vas parler a robin et s'excuser xD
logiquement shanks et barbe blanche devrais se rencontrer
j'éspére que on verra les primes de l'équipage!!!!

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Re: chapitre 433
on a déjà des images grace au forum Arlong park: http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=9699
Mais on a aussi un début de traduction, ou un début de script: Cover Page: Rabbit-man & Enel
The Adam wood was collected before the Marines arrived, so construction on the new ship can begin.
Garp gets down to business and offers Luffy a position with the Shichibukai. Luffy refuses. Garp tells him that he came today as his grandfather, but the next time they meet he will arrest him. Coby also gives Luffy a warning. Luffy grins and says "It can't be helped."
The scene changes to Arabasta. Cobra is walking down a corridor talking with Igaram and Vivi. They are discussing the meeting between Whitebeard & Shanks, the Enies Lobby incident, Luffy, and Ace's search for the traitor Blackbeard.
Ace falls asleep at sea and when he wakes up in a distant place he can see Blackbeard's ship (or when he wakes up, he can see Blackbeard's ship in the distance - I'm not sure which is correct). Ace says "I found him!"
EDIT:
When I was translating, I wasn't 100% clear that Cobra/Igaram/Vivi were actually talking about Whitebeard/Shanks, etc. - it might be that they are talking about something unknown, and then it actually showed the Whitebeard/Shanks meeting and that Whitebeard & Shanks are the ones talking about Enies Lobby, Luffy and Ace/Blackbeard. That might make more sense, because how would Cobra/Igaram/Vivi know about all those things? Hopefully we'll get the full script soon.
Pour ceux qui ne comprennent rien de rien en gros ça dit que Garp a proposé à Luffy de rentrer dans la Marine, bien entendu Luffy a refusé tout net et là Garp et Koby ont averti Luffy que la prochaine fois qu'ils se rencontreraient ce serait probablement pour l'arrêter.
La scène suivante se passerait à Alabasta et Vivi et son père parlerait de la rencontre entre Barbe Blanche et Shanks, de l'incident d'Enies Lobby et de Ace qui est parti à la recherche de Barbe Noire. Par contre là, la personne qui a traduit est pas sur à 100% à savoir elle ne sait pas si c'est Barbe Blanche et Shanks qui parlent de ces évènements, ou si c'est Vivi & Co qui en parlent.
Et enfin il semblerait que Ace ait retrouvé Barbe Noire.
Sur ce, @++.
Mais on a aussi un début de traduction, ou un début de script: Cover Page: Rabbit-man & Enel
The Adam wood was collected before the Marines arrived, so construction on the new ship can begin.
Garp gets down to business and offers Luffy a position with the Shichibukai. Luffy refuses. Garp tells him that he came today as his grandfather, but the next time they meet he will arrest him. Coby also gives Luffy a warning. Luffy grins and says "It can't be helped."
The scene changes to Arabasta. Cobra is walking down a corridor talking with Igaram and Vivi. They are discussing the meeting between Whitebeard & Shanks, the Enies Lobby incident, Luffy, and Ace's search for the traitor Blackbeard.
Ace falls asleep at sea and when he wakes up in a distant place he can see Blackbeard's ship (or when he wakes up, he can see Blackbeard's ship in the distance - I'm not sure which is correct). Ace says "I found him!"
EDIT:
When I was translating, I wasn't 100% clear that Cobra/Igaram/Vivi were actually talking about Whitebeard/Shanks, etc. - it might be that they are talking about something unknown, and then it actually showed the Whitebeard/Shanks meeting and that Whitebeard & Shanks are the ones talking about Enies Lobby, Luffy and Ace/Blackbeard. That might make more sense, because how would Cobra/Igaram/Vivi know about all those things? Hopefully we'll get the full script soon.
Pour ceux qui ne comprennent rien de rien en gros ça dit que Garp a proposé à Luffy de rentrer dans la Marine, bien entendu Luffy a refusé tout net et là Garp et Koby ont averti Luffy que la prochaine fois qu'ils se rencontreraient ce serait probablement pour l'arrêter.
La scène suivante se passerait à Alabasta et Vivi et son père parlerait de la rencontre entre Barbe Blanche et Shanks, de l'incident d'Enies Lobby et de Ace qui est parti à la recherche de Barbe Noire. Par contre là, la personne qui a traduit est pas sur à 100% à savoir elle ne sait pas si c'est Barbe Blanche et Shanks qui parlent de ces évènements, ou si c'est Vivi & Co qui en parlent.
Et enfin il semblerait que Ace ait retrouvé Barbe Noire.
Sur ce, @++.
Comprends vite mais faut expliquer longtemps!



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Re: chapitre 433
un tit sript récupéré sur mangahelpers, apparemment, l'histoire de Garp proposant à Luffy de rejoindre les Shishibukais était un fake, come pour Ace et Barbe Noire.
just the chapter summary translation found on the Narutofan Forums by Nes Mikel:
Chapter 433: "The Name of the Sea is"
Cover: Enel's Space Adventures Vol 4: "There's someone in the hole"
Garp: "You are my grandson!! So that's why I've decided not to capture you!! --or so I will tell the marines so don't worry and stay here."
Person with Hat: "That's not a good excuse so let's just say that he ran away."
Garp: "And besides, I only came along because of these two. Talk all you want, I'm going back."
Luffy: "Okay, see ya."
Garp: "What's with that dismissive attitude! (Garp punches Luffy) Show a little emotion, you idiot!!"
Garp and his crew leave. Zoro, Sanji, Chopper and Robin relax.
Luffy is talking with Coby (Hellmeppo is there too)
Chopper: "Nami's not here too. I thought she wanted to ask a few questions from the marines... I wonder if she changed her mind?"
Robin: "She went to the pool. With Kokoro-san."
Sanji: "Eeeeeeeeeeeh? (Heart) Nami-san and swimsuit~~~?? I'm going to bring her some drinks! (Hearts in his eyes)"
Luffy: "Then you guys came to Grand Line by coming through that mountain too!?"
Coby: "Er... actually, no, we haven't gone through Reverse Mountain."
Luffy: "How?"
Coby: "It's possible for Marine Headquarter ships to pass through the Calm Belt... not that it works 100% of the time, of course."
Luffy: "Eeeeh!? That's like cheating!! But wait, why!? There's a bunch of Sea Kings many times the size of military ships living there!!"
Coby: "At the bottom of those military ships there lies a layer of stones called the Kairouseki."
Luffy: "What about that?"
Coby: "Kairouseki emits the same energy of ocean, so for the fish living underneith the sea that boat is..."
Nami: "Energy of ocean... I get it! So even if the ship passes above the ocean, the Sea Kings are unaware of the ship's existance!! Those military scientists are pretty impressive...!!"
Chimmny: "Sis, sis, aren't you going to swim!? Pirate sis!"
Nami: "Be quiet for a moment Chimmny!! Chances like these don't happen every often!! Right now I am!! Eaves!! Drop!! Ping!!"
Kokoro: "Did you really have to shout it out loud? (sweatdrop)"
Scene switches back to Coby and Luffy's conversation
Coby: "For every ingenious method the Military Scientist Dr. Begabank is always behind it. He's really great!"
Hellmeppo: "Yep, he really is great. Strawhat, that Devil Fruit you ate, he has revealed how the powers mutate and he's also the one who has figured out the recently developed technqiue for making objects eat Devil Fruit as well!!"
Nami: (Dr. Begabank... memo, memo.)
Coby: "I've realized, Luffy-san, that until I've met you I've been living in a small world. The sea taught me that. If Luffy-san didn't come out of the barrel that day, I probably would've been stuck doing chores on Albida's ship.
The conversation draws on (no text, just laughter and anger)
Time passes by
Luffy: "Eeeeeh~~~~!? You're really leaving already!? Let's eat some food!! Food!!"
Coby: "We are meant to be enemies... I can't be friendly with you. Luffy-san!! Do you know what we call the second half of grand line?"
Luffy: "......?"
Coby: "The sea that spreads wide across the Continent of Redline, people call that sea... 'the new world'."
Luffy: "....'The new world'."
Coby: "It is the sea that attracts people who will lead us into a new age!! And the man who has conqured that sea shall be, 'The Pirate King'!!"
Coby: "Luffy-san!! We shall see each other again someday there!! And next time, I'll catch you!! By becoming stronger and stronger!! I will, someday!! Be the Marine's next... the Marine's next Admiral!"
Luffy: "You're going to fight me, right? Then become one! It's obvious!!!"
Iceburg, Oimo, Kaashi, Gallela's Shipwrights and Zanpai and co, everyone is throwing a party.
Robin looks over the party, content.
???: "Don't move and just listen... Nico Robin."
Robin: "!? It can't be...! Aokiji......!!!"
Aokiji: "...Why didn't you run away, just like you've always done before? You could've easily escaped from CP9 anytime."
Robin: "...I couldn't stand and just watch them die..."
Aokiji: "...The giant who fought for the sake Ohara 20 years ago... Hagwar D Sauro and I were friends. For his sake, I respected his will and let you escape from the island, and thus I have a responsibility to see your life through...!! ...However, even after 20 years you still haven't found yourself a place you belong, instead you were still being chased around, and I have decided that I wouldn't let the bomb that is you roam free any longer. The incident this time... I intended to finish it all once at for all. But of course, I never expected the CP9 be defeated as the result... Tell me, have you finally found yourself a place you belong...?"
Robin: "...Yes."
Aokiji: "Sauro's decision of keeping you alive... are you going to show me his decision was right or wrong from now on?"
Robin: "...I intend to..."
Aokiji: "Then live on strong... Orara still... has yet to be destroyed..."
Aokiji leaves
Scene changes to Marijoa
"Five Elder Stars, sir! Something terrible has happened!!"
Five Elder Stars: "What's the matter...?"
"In the 'new world', Red-haired Shanks of the Four Emperors as well as Whitebeard Edward Newgate has broken through the blockade we sent against them the other day and they have finally came into contact with each other!!!"
Five Elder Stars: "What...!!?"
Whitebeard's men: "Boss, boss, Red-hair says he wants to see you, boss."
Whitebeard: "Yeah... let him pass... you have better brought some good booze over, kid."
This week ends
It appears that the part where Luffy's was offered the Shichibukai position as well as Ace finding Blackbeard was fake.
Actually, the whole spoiler summary was fake. The only thing that was true was Garp leaving Luffy. =/
just the chapter summary translation found on the Narutofan Forums by Nes Mikel:
Chapter 433: "The Name of the Sea is"
Cover: Enel's Space Adventures Vol 4: "There's someone in the hole"
Garp: "You are my grandson!! So that's why I've decided not to capture you!! --or so I will tell the marines so don't worry and stay here."
Person with Hat: "That's not a good excuse so let's just say that he ran away."
Garp: "And besides, I only came along because of these two. Talk all you want, I'm going back."
Luffy: "Okay, see ya."
Garp: "What's with that dismissive attitude! (Garp punches Luffy) Show a little emotion, you idiot!!"
Garp and his crew leave. Zoro, Sanji, Chopper and Robin relax.
Luffy is talking with Coby (Hellmeppo is there too)
Chopper: "Nami's not here too. I thought she wanted to ask a few questions from the marines... I wonder if she changed her mind?"
Robin: "She went to the pool. With Kokoro-san."
Sanji: "Eeeeeeeeeeeh? (Heart) Nami-san and swimsuit~~~?? I'm going to bring her some drinks! (Hearts in his eyes)"
Luffy: "Then you guys came to Grand Line by coming through that mountain too!?"
Coby: "Er... actually, no, we haven't gone through Reverse Mountain."
Luffy: "How?"
Coby: "It's possible for Marine Headquarter ships to pass through the Calm Belt... not that it works 100% of the time, of course."
Luffy: "Eeeeh!? That's like cheating!! But wait, why!? There's a bunch of Sea Kings many times the size of military ships living there!!"
Coby: "At the bottom of those military ships there lies a layer of stones called the Kairouseki."
Luffy: "What about that?"
Coby: "Kairouseki emits the same energy of ocean, so for the fish living underneith the sea that boat is..."
Nami: "Energy of ocean... I get it! So even if the ship passes above the ocean, the Sea Kings are unaware of the ship's existance!! Those military scientists are pretty impressive...!!"
Chimmny: "Sis, sis, aren't you going to swim!? Pirate sis!"
Nami: "Be quiet for a moment Chimmny!! Chances like these don't happen every often!! Right now I am!! Eaves!! Drop!! Ping!!"
Kokoro: "Did you really have to shout it out loud? (sweatdrop)"
Scene switches back to Coby and Luffy's conversation
Coby: "For every ingenious method the Military Scientist Dr. Begabank is always behind it. He's really great!"
Hellmeppo: "Yep, he really is great. Strawhat, that Devil Fruit you ate, he has revealed how the powers mutate and he's also the one who has figured out the recently developed technqiue for making objects eat Devil Fruit as well!!"
Nami: (Dr. Begabank... memo, memo.)
Coby: "I've realized, Luffy-san, that until I've met you I've been living in a small world. The sea taught me that. If Luffy-san didn't come out of the barrel that day, I probably would've been stuck doing chores on Albida's ship.
The conversation draws on (no text, just laughter and anger)
Time passes by
Luffy: "Eeeeeh~~~~!? You're really leaving already!? Let's eat some food!! Food!!"
Coby: "We are meant to be enemies... I can't be friendly with you. Luffy-san!! Do you know what we call the second half of grand line?"
Luffy: "......?"
Coby: "The sea that spreads wide across the Continent of Redline, people call that sea... 'the new world'."
Luffy: "....'The new world'."
Coby: "It is the sea that attracts people who will lead us into a new age!! And the man who has conqured that sea shall be, 'The Pirate King'!!"
Coby: "Luffy-san!! We shall see each other again someday there!! And next time, I'll catch you!! By becoming stronger and stronger!! I will, someday!! Be the Marine's next... the Marine's next Admiral!"
Luffy: "You're going to fight me, right? Then become one! It's obvious!!!"
Iceburg, Oimo, Kaashi, Gallela's Shipwrights and Zanpai and co, everyone is throwing a party.
Robin looks over the party, content.
???: "Don't move and just listen... Nico Robin."
Robin: "!? It can't be...! Aokiji......!!!"
Aokiji: "...Why didn't you run away, just like you've always done before? You could've easily escaped from CP9 anytime."
Robin: "...I couldn't stand and just watch them die..."
Aokiji: "...The giant who fought for the sake Ohara 20 years ago... Hagwar D Sauro and I were friends. For his sake, I respected his will and let you escape from the island, and thus I have a responsibility to see your life through...!! ...However, even after 20 years you still haven't found yourself a place you belong, instead you were still being chased around, and I have decided that I wouldn't let the bomb that is you roam free any longer. The incident this time... I intended to finish it all once at for all. But of course, I never expected the CP9 be defeated as the result... Tell me, have you finally found yourself a place you belong...?"
Robin: "...Yes."
Aokiji: "Sauro's decision of keeping you alive... are you going to show me his decision was right or wrong from now on?"
Robin: "...I intend to..."
Aokiji: "Then live on strong... Orara still... has yet to be destroyed..."
Aokiji leaves
Scene changes to Marijoa
"Five Elder Stars, sir! Something terrible has happened!!"
Five Elder Stars: "What's the matter...?"
"In the 'new world', Red-haired Shanks of the Four Emperors as well as Whitebeard Edward Newgate has broken through the blockade we sent against them the other day and they have finally came into contact with each other!!!"
Five Elder Stars: "What...!!?"
Whitebeard's men: "Boss, boss, Red-hair says he wants to see you, boss."
Whitebeard: "Yeah... let him pass... you have better brought some good booze over, kid."
This week ends
It appears that the part where Luffy's was offered the Shichibukai position as well as Ace finding Blackbeard was fake.
Actually, the whole spoiler summary was fake. The only thing that was true was Garp leaving Luffy. =/

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Re: chapitre 433
alors Shanks et Barbe Blanche vont finalement se rencontrer !
la rencontre entre 2 des 4 empereurs, ça doit être sacrément important. et apparemment le conseil des 5 faisait tout pour éviter ça.
bon j'attend avec impatience ce chapitre !
la rencontre entre 2 des 4 empereurs, ça doit être sacrément important. et apparemment le conseil des 5 faisait tout pour éviter ça.
bon j'attend avec impatience ce chapitre !
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Re: chapitre 433
On dirait que ca va ecore etre un chapitre plein d'infos et que les choses commencent a vraiment se précipiter !!!
Aaahhh vite vite !!! J'en peux plus !!!
Aaahhh vite vite !!! J'en peux plus !!!
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Re: chapitre 433
Quoi ? Où ? o_O
Alors je vais aller me ruer là où nous pensons ^_^ !!!
Alors je vais aller me ruer là où nous pensons ^_^ !!!
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Re: chapitre 433
bon bah avec la raw et la trad anglaise c'est bon.
barbe blanche réapparait, ca va devenir intéressant.
ao kiji ne fait toujours rien à Robin, c'est à se demander si il est vraiment dans la Marine lui^^
je suis comme Sanji, sous le charme de Nami en maillot de bain...
je me demande aussi si cet ingénieur de la Marine va avoir un rôle ou pas, ce Dr Begabank...
allez encore une semaine waiting...
barbe blanche réapparait, ca va devenir intéressant.
ao kiji ne fait toujours rien à Robin, c'est à se demander si il est vraiment dans la Marine lui^^
je suis comme Sanji, sous le charme de Nami en maillot de bain...
je me demande aussi si cet ingénieur de la Marine va avoir un rôle ou pas, ce Dr Begabank...
allez encore une semaine waiting...
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Re: chapitre 433
Chapitre tranquille mais sympa!
Fini les retouvailles avec Coby, Luffy & Co vont pouvoir repartir et on se rapproche petit à petit de ce que signifiera être le Seigneur des pirates. même si dominer "le nouveau monde" ne doit pas suffire...
C'est clair qu'Ao Kiji semble prendre quelqeus libertés par rapport à son rôle de Marine. En fait il ne semble pas obéir aveuglement à ses supérieurs. Alors est ce que Hagward D Sauro est vraiment mort? Ca n'en a pas l'air (a t il fait semblant de le tuer en le faisant disparaitre de la même manière que lui semble capable de se déplacer...).
En tout cas, comme par hasard on a droit à un rire à la Sauro en bas d'une page! (dites le que je dis de la m*** et que c'est dû seulement à la trad!
)

Ca y est en tout cas, on repart vers une nouvelle étape pour notre équipage favori. Je pense (enfin espère) que pendant que le bateau se construit et qu'ils ne font rien, on va avoir droit à pas mal de détails sur la rencontre Shanks-BB mais aussi sur le reste du monde (enfin entendre quelqeus anecdtes de Robin sur Dragon etc.)!
Fini les retouvailles avec Coby, Luffy & Co vont pouvoir repartir et on se rapproche petit à petit de ce que signifiera être le Seigneur des pirates. même si dominer "le nouveau monde" ne doit pas suffire...
C'est clair qu'Ao Kiji semble prendre quelqeus libertés par rapport à son rôle de Marine. En fait il ne semble pas obéir aveuglement à ses supérieurs. Alors est ce que Hagward D Sauro est vraiment mort? Ca n'en a pas l'air (a t il fait semblant de le tuer en le faisant disparaitre de la même manière que lui semble capable de se déplacer...).
En tout cas, comme par hasard on a droit à un rire à la Sauro en bas d'une page! (dites le que je dis de la m*** et que c'est dû seulement à la trad!
)
Ca y est en tout cas, on repart vers une nouvelle étape pour notre équipage favori. Je pense (enfin espère) que pendant que le bateau se construit et qu'ils ne font rien, on va avoir droit à pas mal de détails sur la rencontre Shanks-BB mais aussi sur le reste du monde (enfin entendre quelqeus anecdtes de Robin sur Dragon etc.)!
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Re: chapitre 433
trad fra out chez NK2-Team si ca vous interesse... (LQ, en attendant la HQ de notre HNT nationnale)
Re: chapitre 433
j'adooooooore One Piece !!!
Franchement, on a eu droit à 3-4 chapitres ENOORMES !!! Celui-ci ne dépareille pas, et on continue de nous dévoiler un peu plus des mystères qui entourent One Piece.
On apprend qu'il existe un chercheur super balaise, qui a permis aux bateaux de la Marine de passer au travers calm belt, et qui travaille sur des recherches avec les fruits du démon.
On a la chance de revoir Ao Kiji, qui me plait de plus en plus !! Perso, je pense que Sauro est mort, car un géant ne peut pas passer innaperçu quand meme !! En tout cas, on se doute bien que son amitié avec Ao kiji était forte, car ce dernier a laissé Robin partir jeune, et maintenant qu'elle s'est faite des amis, il la laisse à nouveaux repartir. C'est un bon Marine
Enfin, le chapitre suivant s'annonce tout aussi passionnant, car on va retrouver Shanks et Barbe Blanche, et je sens qu'il va y avoir un petit affrontement, juste histoire de tester les niveaux de chacun. Et peut etre on en apprendra sur les possibles pouvoirs de Shanks ou de BB ...
Franchement, on a eu droit à 3-4 chapitres ENOORMES !!! Celui-ci ne dépareille pas, et on continue de nous dévoiler un peu plus des mystères qui entourent One Piece.
On apprend qu'il existe un chercheur super balaise, qui a permis aux bateaux de la Marine de passer au travers calm belt, et qui travaille sur des recherches avec les fruits du démon.
On a la chance de revoir Ao Kiji, qui me plait de plus en plus !! Perso, je pense que Sauro est mort, car un géant ne peut pas passer innaperçu quand meme !! En tout cas, on se doute bien que son amitié avec Ao kiji était forte, car ce dernier a laissé Robin partir jeune, et maintenant qu'elle s'est faite des amis, il la laisse à nouveaux repartir. C'est un bon Marine
Enfin, le chapitre suivant s'annonce tout aussi passionnant, car on va retrouver Shanks et Barbe Blanche, et je sens qu'il va y avoir un petit affrontement, juste histoire de tester les niveaux de chacun. Et peut etre on en apprendra sur les possibles pouvoirs de Shanks ou de BB ...
Re: chapitre 433
un affrontement shanks / Barbe Blanche ? je ne pense pas, ils sont assez intelligents pour ne pas se battre, je crois plutôt qu'ils vont discuter de choses importantes qui pourraient poser des problèmes au conseil des 5.
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Re: chapitre 433
je parle pas d'un affrontement, genre Luffy/Lucci. Mais plutot un truc genre shanks lui fait une attaque surprise, afin de voir si le "vieux" mérite toujours son titre d'Empereur 

Re: chapitre 433
J'en doute...
puisque cette histoire de rencontre a commencé bien avant l'histoire du cp9. Donc la rencontre ne concerne pas les récents evenements.
puisque cette histoire de rencontre a commencé bien avant l'histoire du cp9. Donc la rencontre ne concerne pas les récents evenements.

Re: chapitre 433
moi sinon pour sortir de shanks vs barbe blanche, je dis que le grand combat final du manga (si combat il y a) ce sera coby versus luffy
enfin quelqu'un l'a peut etre déja dit avant moi (dans ce cas jetez moi des tomates)
enfin quelqu'un l'a peut etre déja dit avant moi (dans ce cas jetez moi des tomates)

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